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Saturday, June 9, 2012

Camp E.D.G.E. 2012

It is early Saturday morning. In a few short hours 50 of us will leave Camp E.D.G.E., our children's summer away camp, and head back to life as we know it. It has been an "incredible" week.

Our theme was a take off from Disney's cartoon movie 'The Incredibles.' The movie is about a family with three children who have super powers, and who work together to use them to keep their part of the world safe.

We wore 'Incredible' T shirts with Ephesians 2:10 on the back. We looked like super heroes! We learned how to become part of God's family, what our individual Spiritual Gifts are, how to use them, how to protect ourselves by putting on God's armor, and looked at how Jesus possesses, uses and models for us all the Spiritual gifts.

Last night was 'glow night.' After fun in the dark playing with glow sticks and putting on cabin-group light shows, we went to the dark campfire area and each shared something God taught us at camp, all decked out in our glow necklaces, bracelets and anklets. It was exciting to hear both campers and leaders share their excitement about identifying their Spiritual gifts, and their plans to use them throughout their lives.

Away camp is such a unique learning environment. It is early mornings and late nights, sleeping on bunk beds with 8 friends, eating camp food, swimming, learning to shoot a bow and air rifle, hiking, conquering the challenge course, making a camp craft, roasting marshmallows and making s'mores, and worshipping and learning from God's Word about our role and responsibility as part of God's family.

I pray that God will use what the campers have learned and experienced to encourage them to live their lives fully devoted to Him. It was a really fun week. But I pray that it will be more than that. I pray that each person will faithfully use their spiritual gifts for God's glory, and that they will daily put on their spiritual armor so they can fight off evil attacks and be productive for God's Kingdom.

Thank you Lord for this incredible week. Pease use it for the rest of our lives for Your glory!

Thursday, May 3, 2012

The Urgency of the Times

The End is Near!   How many times have we heard that?   After a point, it begins to lose its sense of urgency.  We can become like "The Boy who cried Wolf."  People begin to ignore the pleas.  Scripture tells us that in the last days people will be crying out the Lord is here or He is here.  People will hear but, in light of all the false reports, most people will simply ignore the inevitable fact the Jesus is coming.

If Jesus is coming (and I believe He is coming sooner rather than later), then we need to be urgently about the Lord's business.  We need to be warning people of the impending judgment at the hands of a righteous God.  Diane posted an article that reflected on the need to share the gospel with a friend who is very critically ill.  If we knew Jesus were coming tomorrow, would it incite us to share with loved ones?  We don't know the day or the hour but we all need the same urgency and desire to share the good news of Jesus to a dying world as though it were going to occur tomorrow (and it could).

One of our goals as a church is that every person be urgently sharing the gospel.  This should result in each of us seeing at least one person a year come to saving faith.  Then if we disciple that person, they can disciple others.  One of El Camino's mission speakers on Sunday addressed this very issue.  Our motivation for doing this should be the shortness of time that we have remaining on earth.  I don't know when Jesus is coming but I do think it could be soon.  I do know that I need to be filled with the urgency and necessity to be sharing the gospel with as many people as God allows because it could be today!

Maintaining Momentum - April 15, 2012

Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Invitation to a Car Show

Our After School Program is hosting the 1st Annual Desert Heat Auto Show in just a few short weeks on May 19th (from 10am-3pm) in an effort to raise needed funds for the program.  If you (or someone you know) have a car or motorcycle you would like to show off at this venue, or if you simply enjoy looking at cars we would love to have you join us.

The entire event is being held right here at El Camino and involves the Children's and Worship Ministries.  This is more than just a car show or a fund-raiser - we hope that this will become an annual outreach event that will bring many of our Tucson neighbors onto our campus.

I hope to see you there!

Friday, April 27, 2012

Announcements for April 27


A dear friend of mine from my teaching days is critically ill. It was totally unexpected. She was a very healthy, fit lady. When I got the text, I was heartbroken. As far as I know, she has yet to accept Christ as her Savior.

I spent that entire morning, my day off, asking God, (beseeching, begging), to spare her life and draw her and her family into a personal relationship with Himself. I am heartbroken at the prospect that she might live eternally apart from God.

In my times with God since then, I have done a lot of thinking about how I spend my time. The fact that I could've and should've invested more in my friendship with her, influencing her for Christ, hit me hard.

Psalm 119:37 says, "Turn my eyes away from worthless things." I live a pretty good life. My leisure activities include watching movies, reading, gardening, cycling, and shopping thrift stores. I wouldn't consider them necessarily 'worthless'. But are they 'worthwhile'?

When I think about my friend recovering in ICU, I wonder if the movie I watched or the shopping I did was more important than making time for her, or making time for the other friends God has placed in my life who also don't have a personal relationship with Him yet.

There is nothing wrong with watching TV or gardening. Agreed. I am entitled to rest, recreation, and fun. I work hard. But when I don't make time for what really matters, when people God has entrusted into my care don't know Him, I think I need to reevaluate some of my choices, and use my time more wisely.

Wednesday, April 25, 2012


It has been an interesting week.  Sunday morning was busy with services and the business meeting.  Sunday evening, I broke a tooth.  It didn't hurt.  The dentist had an opening on Monday when I called.  He was able to put a temporary crown on it.  On Tuesday, I received an unexpected doctor's bill.  On Thursday, Shar will be having surgery on her left eye.  And that is just part of all that is going on.  From an external perspective, the bottom dropped out and we have been hit from all sides.

However, in the midst of it all, I have felt no anxiety or stress.  The peace of God has filled my heart.  Why?  I have choosen to believe that God works everything out for good (Rom 8:28).  He is in control.  I can't change the circumstnaces, but I can trust His timing and control over them.  Regardless of what happens, God loves me and desires nothing but my best.  Therefore, all that has happened is for my best and I choose to trust Him in that.  As a result, His peace has filled me. 

Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Arny's Message

It is amazing how God works everything out for good (Rom 8:28). I watched Sunday's sermon from home because it is not a "pretty picture" to listen to a pastor blow his nose 20 times during a sermon. Arny so gracious stepped in and gave a wonderful sermon relating to the 12 spies - all leaders in Israel. Ten focused on the negative and two focused on the opportunity God had given. This is just what we all needed to hear.

I want to be like Joshua and Caleb. I want to focus on the God who is bigger than any problem I face rather than like the ten who focused on the problems being bigger than God could handle. Throughout life and ministry, we all face problems, issues, and circumstances. I can either be anxious and preoccupied because of the trouble or I can be calm in the midst of the storm knowing that God will deal with it. Attitude is a choice. I choose to believe that God is bigger, greater, mightier than anything I ever face.

Yes, there will be difficulties and obstacles to accomplishing God's purpose. But I choose to be an optimist - God will deliver. God will provide. The things that happen in life and ministry are merely opportunities for me to trust Him. I choose not to be dissuaded by the pessimists even if they are more in number or recognized as leaders. I choose to press forward trusting God, even if none go with me.

Wednesday, April 11, 2012

The Hope of Resurrection

This week we had a member of El Camino go to be with the Lord. While under hospice care, he entered eternity at the same time the congregation was celebrating the resurrection of Jesus. What a great time to go be with Jesus!

We celebrate that Jerry is with the Lord and that he will rise again at the Lord's coming. While we grieve our loss, we rejoice in heavens gain. It is a special time in heaven when believers go home. Psalm 116:5 says, "Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints."

We have the comfort and assurance from Christ's own resurrection that Jerry will experience this as well. It is the hope of all who believe in Jesus.

I Wanna Be Like David

Our Ministry Leadership Team was asked to give our testimony on Easter Sunday about how knowing the Resurrected Savior has changed our lives. God showed each one of us exactly what He wanted us to share. We pray that He was glorified!

At the continental breakfast afterward, a beautiful lady came up to me and said, "We are so blessed to have you here." Compliments are extremely difficult for me to take, plus I was still numb from speaking in front of a group of people. It terrifies me. I responded with a gentle, "Thank you." She then reminded me that it is through the prayers of God's people here at El Camino that any of my efforts turn out to be successful. And she is so right! "For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." Philippians 2:13

This morning in my quiet time, I was reading in 1 Chronicles 14:10-17, about David defeating the Philistines right after God had established him as king over Israel. It spoke strongly to me about having a humble, God-honoring, thankful heart.

14:10a David inquired of the Lord
14:10c God answered David
14:11a David did as God commanded
14:11b David rightly credited God with the success

My response to this precious lady should have been that anything that is accomplished in Children's Ministries is because God blesses us with success. I know that full well, but I obviously don't praise God enough or that would've been my immediate response, because "Out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks."

Lord God, I know that You are Sovereign. I know that every success we have and all that we accomplish for You is due to You. Please help the immediate response of my heart to be that of thankfulness and praise to You!

Thursday, April 5, 2012

The Resurrection

This Sunday the Church celebrates the Resurrection. We identify the event as Easter. The world has corrupted the meaning of this most glorious celebration by making it a day for children to search for decorated eggs, eat candy, and hear about the Easter bunny. However, this totally changes the focus of the real meaning of Easter.

On Sunday morning following the crucifixion, Jesus rose from the dead. He left the tomb victorious over sin and death. He proved, gave evidence, that He is God and that He paid the penalty for all our sins.

If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then Christians are to be the most pitied people in the world. This is exactly what the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15. But we are not stupid, deceived, or deluded. We have a living hope. Jesus is alive. Jesus is God. And because He is raised from the dead, I know that my sins are forgiven.

I rejoice that we can celebrate the resurrection in confidence that Jesus is alive and that one day we will live with Him as well.

Tuesday, April 3, 2012


We are house hunting. We are looking for a home with guest facilities to meet my mother-in-law's needs. So we are updating our current home and searching for a different one.

House hunting is fun after all these years. Our needs are different since our four boys are all grown up. We are looking for different features in a home than we needed last time. There are so many houses to choose from, and so many things to consider.

All this house hunting and fixing-up has me distracted. I fight at work to be focused and productive. During my quiet time with God each morning my mind has been wandering to thoughts about houses. And my relationship with my husband is stressed since my mind is preoccupied.

This morning in my quiet time, I read Revelation 2:12,13. "Yet you remained true to My Name. You did not renounce your faith in Me, even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city-where Satan lives."

I want to remain true to my God, even when I get busy with the affairs of this world. I want my time alone with God to be rich and full, and to consider Him in every decision I make and in everything I do all day long. I want to want what He wants. I want to serve Him, my family, my coworkers, and all the people God brings my way, with love and faithfulness. I want a house to be a provision from God, not a distraction pulling me away from what God has called me to do and to be.

Lord, thank You for refocusing me on what is important, what really matters. Lead us to the house that You have for us. Please protect us from making any decision that will hinder us from doing what You have called us to do, and that will not bring You glory.

Thursday, March 22, 2012

A Passion to Know God

Yesterday in Good News Club, I met with a 4th grade boy who is new to the club. I asked him if he was new to Schumaker school. He said no. I asked what brought him to Good News Club later in the year. He said one day he was taking care of his little cousin, and she knew God. She knew a lot of things about God too. And he didn't know God or anything about Him. He said he really wanted to, so he asked his mom if he could learn about God. She said yes and signed him up for Good News Club, like his kindergarten cousin.

When we talked about God's plan for us, he hung on my every word. He didn't want to miss a thing. He enthusiastically prayed asking Jesus to be his Savior. He was thrilled to hear that his name is now written in the Book of Life. He was equally thrilled to learn that everything God wants us to know is in the Bible. He was going to start reading the one his Good News Club teacher gave him.

We know and believe that God is the most amazing gift we can offer anyone! How fun to see a person's joy when they personally meet Him. It is such an honor and priviledge to introduce someone to eternity with the One True God, and to a lifetime of joy as he walks intimately with Him! Lord, please continue to grow him in his walk with You!

1 Chronicles 16:23
Sing to the LORD, all the earth; proclaim his salvation day after day.

Monday, March 12, 2012

Parenting Adult Children

I recently met friends and mentors Skip and Buzzie Gray for lunch. In the process, the topic of parenting adult children arose. Skip said, "Ron, remember THREE words: Always, Never, and Seldom." Then he explained.

ALWAYS remember God's promises for your children. Pray regularly for your children, using God's promises for them.

NEVER give unsolicited advice. They probably won't listen anyway.

SELDOM help them, unless they ask and it is agreeable with you. They need to grow and be independent on their own. We shouldn't enable our children but we should come alongside them when it is appropriate.

This is wise advice from one who has traveled the path of parenting adult children.

Monday, March 5, 2012

Amazing Teens

Yesterday morning I went out to the Sunday School classes to check on our visitors. When I walked past the preschool playground, Stephen, a teen helper, was playing an active game with the little boys. They ran one direction behind the equipment, then he ran the other. They screeched with delight every time he surprisingly found them.

Then I walked into the nursery and found Kelsey, also a teen, making sure every toddler had a puzzle and knew how to put it together. She was determined no one would feel left out or unsuccessful at puzzle making.

In 1 Timothy 4 Paul said to Timothy, "Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity."

Stephen and Kelsey are just two of of the numerous amazing teens God has called to serve faithfully in our Early Childhood department. They all make sure the children have fun and feel loved. They represent Jesus well!

Lord, thank you for the way you created these amazing young people. Please continue to grow them into the godly men and women that you created them to be. And thank you for calling them to serve in our Children's Ministry Department at El Camino. Their energy and love help children and adults know that You love them! Please bless them mightily!

Wednesday, February 29, 2012

A New Heart

I partner with a wonderful person who at times drives me crazy. At one moment the person is happy, content, and easy to interact with. The next moment the person displays annoyance, frustration, and unhappiness-over the smallest of things. I find myself on eggshells trying not to provoke or incite those feelings and responses. It makes me uncomfortable and a little miserable. I'm distracted when that person is around, and find myself wishing I was elsewhere.

This morning in my quiet time, Ezekiel 36:25-27 really spoke to my heart concerning this issue. I can't change the other person's behaviors or personality, and I can't even seem to change my feelings. But I can pray for us both and let God perform heart surgery.

Ezekiel 36:25-27 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit in you and move you to follow My decrees and be careful to keep My laws.

Lord, please cleanse me from all my impurities, especially from my negative, unloving feelings toward this person. Please remove my cold, stone heart, and replace it with a heart that overflows with Your love for this person. Please increase the power of Your Spirit within me, and help me to love like You love!

Monday, February 27, 2012

Weed Killer

A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned in one of my sermons that my mother-in-law had given me a home made weed killer recipe. It contains no harsh chemicals and is safe to use around children and pets. If you get it on yourself, there is no emergency to run inside and wash quickly. This recipe works well on vegetation and is much less expensive than Roundup or harsh chemicals. I have had a number of people ask for that recipe again. So I thought I would post it on our blog.

The recipe is: 1 gallon of vinegar; 2 cups of table salt; and 1 cup of liquid dish soap (any kind will do and the cheaper the better). I personally mix the vinegar and salt in a separate container before putting it into my sprayer. The reason is so that I make sure all the salt is dissolved. That way it will not clog up the lines in the sprayer. The soap can be added anytime after the salt is dissolved.

I guess I should make a spiritual lesson out of this. How about, "It isn't expensive and it isn't dangerous to deal with the weeds of life." We just need to yield to the Spirit and not yield to the flesh. :) :)

Monday, February 13, 2012

We Can All Relate to One Another

I just returned from a trip to India. I had the wonderful experience of facilitating a course on leadership for 15 masters level students. It was exciting. In the process of getting to know the students and their culture, I asked a lot of questions. They did too! We learned from each other.

One thing I noted - they are the same as me. We all struggle with the same issues. We all have victories and we all face defeat. Their churches battle between contemporary and traditional worship. They individually need encouragement and challenge to maintain daily devotions and prayer. They love the Lord and get excited when they see answers to prayer. The Lord is faithful to them in the same manner that He is faithful to us.

As 1 Corinthians 10:13 explains, there is a commonality in the life of Christ for every person. Regardless of age, gender, race, or nationality, we all have the ability to stand with one another in struggle and victory, knowing that we all go through the same things. We may face our battles in different circumstances, but we have the same Jesus who is victorious over all.

Saturday, February 11, 2012

God Knew...Imagine That!

I know that in hard times our true character is revealed. Going through the illness and death of a parent qualifies as a hard time. But being personally attacked by friends over memorial decisions was even harder for me.

God chose for me three verses to focus on this year. Psalm 55:22b, "Cast your cares upon the LORD for He cares for you." I didn't do that. In my hurt and pain, I whined to humans. I didn't take it to God.

I spoke unkindly about those who hurt me, totally ignoring the second verse God gave me, 1 Timothy 3:11b, "...be a woman worthy of respect, not a malicious talker, but temperate and trustworthy in everything."

My third verse from God is 1 Timothy 4:7b, "...train yourself to be godly." Imagine that! God knew exactly what I needed to do to overcome these sins, faults and character flaws.

Thank you Lord for revealing to me how desperately I need to memorize the verses that You gave to me this year, and cling to them in hard times rather than choose a path of sin when I am weak. Please help me be faithful to memorize them and apply them in order to walk in godliness.

Monday, February 6, 2012

What ever happened to CLASS?

Yesterday I was watching the Superbowl (like so many of you) and was struck by a thought that seems to keep coming around inside my head. What has happened to class?

In case you missed it, during the halftime show performance by Madonna, one of her guest performers, who goes by the initials "M.I.A." spoke a swear word and flashed the middle finger to all of America. The censors tried to remove it before it aired, but it came across loud and clear nonetheless. So, what happened to class?

I see this same trend of declining or absent class and respect for others in our young people today. In fact, I would say that by and large, many of today's students (and their parents) have not been taught what class is. They are unaware of what respect for themselves and others is.

Scripture tells us in Ephesians 4.29 that, "no unwholesome words are to come out of our mouths." I think this includes gestures with the middle finger also. There was no call for this kind of display from "artist" M.I.A. - other than a total lack of class on her part and a total disregard for respecting viewers in living rooms around the world.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not surprised by yet another controversy over a Superbowl halftime show. I am just sad that we, as a culture, seem to be losing sight of what behaving with class and honor and respect look like in our most public venues.

Saturday, February 4, 2012

Answered Prayer for a Godly Man

My father-in law went to be with the Lord yesterday. As we drove home, my husband shared how excited he was to realize that God answered all his prayers for his dad's passing.

He prayed that when God chose to take his dad home, He would take him gently, quickly and with dignity. God granted all three.

Dad’s passing out of this life was very gentle. He received great care at the hospice for his last days on this earth.

God took him quickly in the end. When it was time to go, he breathed a few calm breaths then just quietly slipped away from us to join his Lord.

God blessed him with great dignity up to the end of his earthly life. During his last days, he was mentally alert. He was able to recognize family and friends. He not only had conversations with us, but showed his great sense of humor. Many of his conversations were to comfort those he was leaving behind. He was also incredibly kind to all his caretakers.

He was so ready and excited to meet the Lord and go to Heaven. Up to his last breath he was still being dad. Not only did he teach us how to live well, how to live a life that honors God, but he was teaching us how to die well. He was a godly man who lived for Christ, and died reflecting His love and grace.

We will miss you Dad, but your godly legacy will live on for generations to come!

Joshua 24:15
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.”

Friday, February 3, 2012

Lessons from I Samuel

Katie and I have been reading through I Samuel for our devotions in the evenings. In chapter 5, the Philistines capture the ark of the covenant but some strange things start happening. They put it in the house of one of their gods and the statue of their god keeps falling down in front of the ark. Then the men of the town get stricken with tumors all of over their bodies. They decide to take the ark to another city but, there too, the men of the city are stricken with tumors. they decide to take it to a third city but the people of the town stop them saying that God is angry because they have the ark and they do not wish to face His wrath.

Unfortunately, this is not a story of redemption. One can assume that these people, even after seeing and recognizing God's power, went back to worshiping their different gods. How does this compare with our own lives? Even though billions of people see God's work everyday and many of those even acknowledge that power, their lives remain unchanged.

Do we know who will accept Christ when confronted with the Truth? Of course not. But we must continue to spread the Word of God to all who will listen. Do not be discouraged by those who hear it and still reject it. Rather, be encouraged by the lives of those who are changed by Almighty God.


Monday, January 30, 2012

Unexpected Blessings

This past Sunday between the Classical and the Modern service I was in the Worship Center when down the isle a familiar face came toward me. It happened to be Glen Paden and his wife Aliene. I have know Glen for over 30 years but had not seen him in 4 or 5 years. In the early years of my ministry he and his wife were very supportive of the Pastors that were on staff at First Southern Baptist in Fresno. During that time he also became a mentor to me as I served in churches without a pastor. We spent lunch together catching up and sharing in fellowship. What a special blessing for Candy and I to have he and his wife in our services. An unexpected blessing.

Pastor Dick

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Taking Time to Worship

This past Sunday I took time off from being on the platform during the Modern Service to evaluate what and how we're doing worship. I am excited about what I heard and saw, but even more important I had a blessed time in worship. I believe I worship each week, but this was a time of personal refreshing. If you're involved in "Working" somewhere each Sunday and you are not able to be in a service, let me encourage you to take a Sunday off and just come to church and worship.

Pastor Dick

Thursday, January 19, 2012

Ignite Tucson

This Saturday we join with 5 other churches to host a city wide Children's Ministry Volunteer training. It will be held at Pantano Christian Church from 8:00am to 2:30pm.

You can come for just the morning which includes keynote presenter, Dennis Lee, master ventriloquist, and participate in three workshops. Or you can stay for lunch and take advantage of two additional afternoon seminars, getting you on your way back home by 3:00.

There are over 60 seminars from which to choose. You will definitely leave feeling more equipped to serve God in the ministry to which He has called you. It will be a day well worth your time.

It isn't too late to join us. Just call the church office at 886-7770 to register. You can also register on site Saturday morning at 8:00am.

Hope to see you there!

Friday, January 13, 2012

Praying Scripture

Each January Pastor Ron asks the staff to prayerfully choose a Bible verse for the year. Then we all pray for each other throughout the year by praying the verse each person chose. It is a fun tradition, but it is so much more!

In her book, Praying God's Word, Beth Moore talks about the power of praying using God's Word. She says, "God has handed us two sticks of dynamite with which to demolish our strongholds: His Word and prayer. What is more powerful than two sticks of dynamite placed in separate locations? Two strapped together. ..by taking our two primary sticks of dynamite-prayer and God's Word-strapping them together, and igniting them with faith in what God says He can do," our prayers become more powerful because they are in line with what God wants for us.

Our verse for El Camino this year is John 13:34-35 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

Let's all pray this scripture together for El Camino. Imagine the impact we will have for God's glory if we all truly love one another!!

Friday, January 6, 2012

What God Began He Will Complete

I went to a used bookstore today to see what wonderful Christian children's books and Bibles they had for bargain prices. While the very kind and professional gentleman, who reminded me of a flower child from the 60's rang up my purchases, he asked where I worked with children. When I said El Camino Church he mentioned that he donated books and a gift card once to our children's ministry. I said I remembered that, and thanked him.

I asked, "Do you have children?" He said, "Yes, a 15 year old and a 2 year old." I invited him to bring the 2 year old to our Sunday School at 11:00am. I said we have lots of wonderful books to read to him!

He smiled and said, "When I was a kid, someone took me to his church a few times, and that church was...(he hesitated for dramatic effect) El Camino! Right down the street from here." I said that we would love to have him back, and that I knew his 2 year old would love his Sunday School class.

He smiled at me as he handed me my 2 full bags and said, "Peace and love!" I smiled back and said, "To you too! And I hope to meet your son some day."

Lord, You began a good work in my bookstore friend a couple decades ago. Please use our conversation today to stir in his heart a desire to know You now, and have his son know You. Please bring them to El Camino where we can love them to You. And thank you for the opportunity to meet and talk with one of your future children!